Telepathy Threads, with Jes Kerzen
Paradigms are meant to be bent and, in the best of cases, broken down; the more there is to break, the more fertile the space for possibilities yet uncharted.
I had recently published an interview with neurophysiatrist, Diane Hennacy, of the popular Telepathy Tapes podcast.
A key takeaway had revolved around the idea that the ways by which we explore and inquire about the world around is more filtered through our consciousness than we often appreciate.
Soon after the interview had been published, another important character in the whole story had reached out to me - teacher, Jes Kerzen:
I was a schoolteacher for all my working life, mostly in mainstream schools but for about 10 years in a specialist provision for children with speech and language difficulties. In the late 1990s I discovered that a group of these children were communicating telepathically with one another. I gradually found myself able to pick up some of their communications. I developed a particularly strong relationship with one of those children (Asher) who went on to confide in me that he received visions, precognitions and knowledge from another dimension. The material he shared convinced me that he had access to information far beyond what would be available within the ‘normal’ parameters of life.
So in follow up to my interview with Dr. Hennacy, which features a wordy preamble about the methods by which we pursue the unknown corners of our world (and ourselves within it), my below interview with Kerzen is a deeper testament to the idea that there’s more to everything that we can fit into any kind of verifiable theory.
And that to reduce the world around us into measurable theories could be something of a fallacious practice.
What if our interactions with each other - or with our surrounding reality - goes beyond the audible and visual; beyond the verbal or palpable or measurable?
In the words of Ky Dickens, who should be credited as having produced the growing discussion around this subject:
“If you take consciousness from the top [of the pyramid] and put it on the bottom so that consciousness is the basis of all reality — that consciousness is fundamental [and] that everything is the product of our thoughts first — then we can account for all of this stuff. Then we can account for precognition and telepathy. And it’s not that big of a change, it’s just kind of flipping the order of the pyramid”
Paradigms are meant to be bent and, in the best of cases, broken down; the more there is to break, the more fertile the space for possibilities yet uncharted.
Have you ever had any notable success communicating telepathically with children that aren’t neurodivergent?
Jes Kerzen:
This depends how you classify neurodivergence. Some use it as meaning autism and/or ADHD. Others would argue that dyspraxia, dyslexia, dyscalculia, Tourette’s and various other ‘ways of being’ all fall under the neurodivergent umbrella.
I was able to pick up telepathic communications from some pupils in a specialist class for children with speech and language difficulties. They’d arrived there with a wide mixture of symptoms and diagnoses. At least one little kid (I called him Max in A Mind Beyond Words) was definitely not autistic and did not have ADHD. His only medical issue was a difficulty controlling the muscles of his mouth, which meant he was unable to make himself clearly understood through speaking. That was diagnosed as a localised (verbal) form of dyspraxia, though, so it could be argued he was neurodivergent, although only minimally so.
All the children and teens I subsequently worked with who demonstrated telepathic ability were quite definitely neurodivergent and almost all had been diagnosed with autism. However, my own experience is tiny – only around a dozen children at most throughout my career.
In what ways are your telepathic communications the same or different with other neurodivergent children? In other words, are there any common denominators that you have identified?
As I said, my experience has been very limited. Max was the only child whose words I could hear in my head. He was somehow able to project worded utterances to me, so that I knew the message came from him, as I recognised his distinctive voice and phraseology.
In most cases, I was more likely to pick up emotions or thoughts in a fairly general sense. Almost all the autistic children I worked with could read my thoughts. That was a common factor.
Asher tells me the most frustrating part of having such skills is not knowing how to react when a neurotypical person says one thing but is thinking something quite different. A small child who’d argued with his friend once told me, “She said she was sorry, but I looked in her heart and that’s not what was there.”
One quickly learns to be truthful and authentic with telepathic kids. They won’t trust you if you’re not.
Have you ever researched or experienced heightened telepathy amongst siblings?
Not personally, no. I was a classroom teacher, so rarely dealt with siblings unless they were twins, and I don’t recall being aware of any incidents of telepathy with or between any of them.
Have you found there to be a link between mothers and daughters specifically? (My wife notes that our 4 year old will occasionally tune into her thoughts with unbelievable accuracy, often ‘pulling imagery’ out of my wife’s mind. She had been wondering if mothers/daughters have an easier time establishing non-physical communication.)
Again, as a schoolteacher, I wasn’t working with families so this never arose in my personal experience. However, Asher tells me that all children have this ability when they are small and although most lose it when they begin to speak, some hold on to it, particularly with people they are closely bonded to. It sounds as if your wife and daughter have a very special connection.
Have you noticed there to be a drop off in age at a certain point (if the ability becomes weaker as the child grows older) and, if so, what would you attribute to the decline (i.e. hormonal variables, greater application of logical materialism, proficiency of physical communication, etc).
I certainly noticed that the children I taught who’d had speech difficulties used telepathy less as they learned to talk more clearly. They were fully aware in that educational setting that clear spoken language was their target, so that’s what they worked at, abandoning most non-verbal communication.
(Max and Asher continued to use telepathy between themselves once they could speak reasonably well, and got embarrassed if I inadvertently tuned in to private telepathic chats they were having in class, when they were supposed to be working!)
The material Asher has provided for the new book we are preparing suggests that three major factors are involved:
1. People differ in their inherent ability to use telepathic skills, just as some are born with higher levels of innate artistic or gymnastic talent. However all have some ability, and this can be developed through regular focus and effort. With each successive generation, a higher proportion of children are currently being born with recognisable skills in this area.
2. Socialisation in industrial and post-industrial cultures discourages and stifles psi abilities, with its rigid adherence to materialist paradigms. Children will frequently be told they are ‘imagining things’ or telling lies if they share experiences such as precognition, seeing non-physical beings, remembering pre-birth experiences or telepathy, so most quickly learn to suppress or ignore these abilities and focus on behaviour that will gain praise and encouragement from family, teachers and (later) peer groups.
3. As word-based spoken/written language is our society’s accepted form of communication, children are encouraged to develop this. As your question suggests, this can subsume the subtle telepathic skills they were born with. Asher recalls feeling frustrated as a small child when he was able to pick up the thoughts of others, but they seemed incapable of receiving projected thoughts from him. For some years he lapsed into silence, until moving, at age 6, to a class of non- and semi-speakers where he discovered others who had retained their telepathic ability. This appears to be the reason the non-speakers featured in The Telepathy Tapes have remained skilled at telepathy. It is their ‘first language’.
What are some methods by which a parent can try such a form of communication (or build the skill of non-physical communication), regardless of any neurodivergence?
As the previous answer would suggest, an accepting and encouraging attitude on the part of parents/carers is the most important factor in fostering skill-building in this area. Children who feel safe about sharing experiences, rather than having ‘imaginary friends’, for example, dismissed as cute or silly, will be more willing to share their gifts.
Praise any attempts to ‘guess’ what the parent is thinking about and be ready to ask questions like, “Did you just think the idea of a monkey into my mind?”
There will be hits and misses initially, but gradually the trust will build. Believing it is possible makes a huge difference.
Remote viewing is a valuable tool for exploring and developing such skills because the feedback is unequivocal. It’s a useful way to get into a receptive mental state. It may also help encourage sceptical older kids or adults. We started by one of us holding and focussing on an object for ten minutes, while the other, in a different location, made notes and sketches. We could then compare these with photos or videos of the target. Later, we moved on to viewing the other person’s chosen location by identifying specific features of the place. I believe that paved the way to achieving the level of non-local communication we now have.
I’d stress that unconditional love and acceptance are needed to build the trust for this ability to flourish. That means accepting all their communication without question, whether the child is willing or able to share telepathic gifts or not. They may have their own valid reasons for not doing so at this point in their lives. A parent pushing them to ‘be psychic’ will do as much potential harm as one dismissing subtle abilities.
What did it take for you to establish your telepathic communication with Asher?
I’d say the requirements were a very close bond between us (entanglement, to borrow a quantum term); complete trust in one another; on my part a deconstruction of the social conditioning that told me I was imagining or ‘wishful thinking’ the contact; learning to move into a similar brain state (my normal state is beta, his is theta) so that we were, literally, on the same wavelength. I also needed a few clearly and independently verifiable messages from him to still my inner sceptic. For us, the remote viewing was probably an important early step as it assured us that communication beyond both time and space was achievable.
What kind of methodology is involved between Asher and yourself to maintain this non-physical form of communication? Are there any variables that strengthen or weaken the ability?
We have a set time for connecting most evenings. I prepare by consciously emptying my mind of daily clutter, visualising a journey through a maze and connecting with Asher. We then have about half an hour to prepare and, in my case, collect a pen, notebook and pendulum before beginning our dialogue.
Ash describes it as, “a merging of intention — my intention to impart knowledge or information and yours to be instrumental in making those ideas available to others via words. I make use of your personal lexicon and, in rare cases, I am able to extract syllables or similar sounding words that will enable you to find a word, or a meaning of a word, you’ve not been aware of before.”
He tells me that an individual’s consciousness can enter many states and be available on various levels, adding: “There are times when this becomes very much like a channelling experience for you, as I pass on more-or-less pure psychic material directly from The Realms. At other times there are [telepathic] conversations that mirror the way we would talk face to face about these matters, when what you would call ‘banter’ takes place.
“I think the easiest way for you to understand it would be to imagine me standing on various rungs of a ladder. I am ‘higher Asher’ at the top and ‘Ash-in-the-body’ at the lower end. Depending on our moods — both of us individually — and the material to come through, I adjust my position on the ladder to create the best vibrational match.”
We now live 150 miles apart and no longer meet in person or converse via any spoken method. However, we exchange brief messages by text once or twice a week. We rarely discuss the telepathy in those chats, as he prefers to keep the two aspects as separate as possible.
Asher told me: “In our particular case — and this is where we vary from the more usual types of channelling — maintaining our personal friendship is an important aspect. You would be less motivated if I was always up at the top of the ladder. It remains important for my personality to be accessible.”
When I asked whether this was just to placate me, or of importance to both of us, he replied, “Both of us equally. Our friendship feeds — nourishes — our souls.”
Can you explain the water bottle experiment?
My pupil-turned-teacher Asher (then aged 15) was on a train journey with me. He’d been trying to explain a complex download of information he’d recently had from his multidimensional source. He was attempting to tell me how consciousness worked and how we could affect reality.
Realising that I wasn’t understanding, he indicated the plastic bottle of water that stood on his side of the table between us in the carriage. He told me it would be possible to move the bottle to my side of the table without touching it, simply by visualising it where I wanted it to be. I was sceptical, but happy to let him show me how this worked. We both focussed on the position we wanted the bottle to move to.
A few minutes later, the train guard entered the carriage to check everyone’s tickets. He came to our table, checked both our tickets and, for no discernible reason, moved the bottle to place it on my side of the table, before moving on.
Asher’s explanation (delivered non-physically, many years later) went as follows: “It has to do with focus and intention. I set in my mind the idea that the bottle needed to move across to the other side: point A to point B. I moved my awareness forward to the point at which the bottle was there. [It involved more than just imagining it there.] Imagination is powerful in a general sense, but this is intention. You control your world. It doesn’t exist outside of your perception. I told you to see the bottle on the other side of the table. You and I were both doing that. We saw it as being able to move to point B. So that was the process. The intervening part was just filled in, in a way that made sense to our physical senses in this reality. It could have been a gust of wind, someone staggering as they passed our table and knocking it, or the guard moving it aside. It isn’t the way it happens that matters. You have situation A. You intend situation B. You then wait for life to join up the dots between the two. You’ve spent [a lifetime] thinking how such things can’t happen. It’s time to stop doing that and to see the result you want. Then wait for the events to fall into place.”
As I had asked Dr. Hennacy: how would you describe this informational field, and where do you think consciousness resides?
Asher once gave me a ‘map of all the atoms in the universe’. It was a sheet of paper covered in a grid of identical circles, arranged in straight rows and columns and extending as far as the page would allow. Each circle touched those surrounding it, but none overlapped. He told me the words ‘atoms’ and ‘universe’ were merely placeholders, since the map was fractal and applied to anything from quarks or electrons, through animals and humans, planets and galaxies, to what Aldous Huxley termed Great Mind.
He said his map showed, “A design that allows each unit to hold a space, but it can only maintain its position/sovereignty/structure when supported by the grid. So the strength is in both the overall configuration and the individual integrity of the single unit. We are at once independent of and utterly dependent on the rest, supporting each other and being supported in equal measure. The way every part builds on and supports and is held up by the rest of the structure means no one part is more important than another.”
Each unit, then, is an integral part of consciousness, but so is the whole.
Consciousness resides in each cell in the body of a starling, devouring scraps of food on the pavement. It resides in the bird itself. When that same starling becomes a miniscule part of a murmuration – a flock of birds moving perfectly together to create pulsing, flowing patterns in the sky – its consciousness becomes one with this new airborne organism. When the flock lands, it divides again into individual birds, scrabbling for the best roosting spot. This process provides a useful analogy for the human experience: parts of an overarching consciousness breaking away from the whole to become autonomous units for a few decades, before once again merging to become a vital part of the whole.
The informational field is the blueprint that overlies consciousness. This is in a constant state of expansion. Asher described it as a ‘beginingless and endless library’, where he could travel non-locally to gain information and share it with me. He emphasises that all thought and experience, however it is gained, moves into this field. Each decision and idea and emotion we create while in the physical state will become part of this field.
What have you ultimately learned about the shared nature of consciousness through your interactions with Asher; what have you learned about our conscious potential, both individually and collectively?
Asher has taught me to value and treasure human existence and to be mindful of every choice made in this physical state. Life can appear to happen by default, with seemingly random events, but I’m now certain that this is not the case.
Each life-plan has been created, with guidance and assistance from others in the non-physical state where our consciousness resides between incarnations. In that state, each of us selected opportunities we felt would potentially enrich our ‘greater selves’ as well as adding to the information field. Agreements were made and deals struck to show up in one another’s human lives, offering chances for growth. How each of us deals with these seemingly trivial opportunities and experiences will affect the information field, and thus the whole of consciousness.
As demonstrated in the water bottle story, we have the option to move into a flow state, making conscious choices and living on purpose. Once that is achieved, our creative potential increases exponentially. We become conscious creators of our lives, and every choice affects everyone and everything around us.
I believe Asher and the other non-speakers are ready to guide humanity towards this deeper understanding of our conscious potential and abilities.
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